They have a plan for making the free frontage roads slow. So slow that if people wanted to get anywhere, they would be forced to take the toll lanes.

(Clifford) brings this wonderful British sensibility to the show. He feels strongly that this be done the way it was meant to be done.

We've wanted to do this for a while. We're trying to expand our audience base by doing something lighter; we want families to come with their kids and find that this is accessible.

If you have a road that's been paid for already by gas tax dollars, and then you charge a toll on it, we call that double taxation.