This provides vivid insights into what (a terrorist) situation might be like. It makes me even tenfold more worried -- if that's possible -- than I was before.

They began to authorize procedures in the armed forces that led to, in my view, what we've seen.

The vice president had to cover this in order for it to happen and in order for Secretary Rumsfeld to feel as though he had freedom of action.

They made my point for me, ... The decisions were not made in the principals' process, in the deputies' process, in the policy coordinating committee process. They were not made in the statutory process.

I can only assume that, when the vice president of the United States lobbies the Congress on behalf of cruel and unusual punishment and the need to be able to do that in order to get information out of potential terrorists... that it's still going on.

There's no question in my mind that we did. There's no question in my mind that we may be still doing it, ... Late Edition.

I have no idea, ... That text was presented to me by the secretary only days before the presentation, and the secretary's words were something to the effect of, 'This is what the White House has given us.' And that was the text I took to the CIA and within 16 hours had totally discarded because it was garbage.