We've been on probably the fastest growth track of any catalog retailer. But we can't keep it up in perpetuity.

We're just getting our first results back. So far, so good.

It's high strength, high endurance but a different type of duress than sport climbing.

I could never challenge Donald Trump for power and influence, but I would never trade that for a pretty day on the rock. It's so intellectual and Zen-like for me.

It would do my heart a world of good if he wanted to climb with his old dad one day. I get a big charge out of my job watching people become more than they think they can be or do more than they think they can.

At that time, we were able to implement processes so businesses could still be served. It's a dramatic example of what a group of business people can accomplish when they have common goals.

We did it the classic way. We went to a gear shop, got some ropes and then were wise enough to back away when we realized we needed more training. Luckily, we picked something forgiving, nothing that was too outrageous or too difficult.

In 2005, I did 36 leads. My goal is to have done 1,000 by the time I'm 70.