I guess that could occur. But that's not likely.

For the first time we as Americans were acutely aware of what you do.

That's what his goal was. That's what he wanted.

Right now it's 50-50.

If they were prepared to pay him $1 million to retire, you can't say it was a money thing, ... It was just a personnel decision to not bring him back. Case closed.

It'll probably go down to the last hour Thursday night.

We came pretty close, but we just couldn't get it closed. We just had to leave it alone for a while. We sort of got stuck, like you do when you can't get a deal. But we had a good productive meeting and we left on a good note.

That's out of the picture.

The retirement thing came down very quickly with Jerry. It came a week ago Saturday, and by the following Monday — Labor Day — he was announcing his retirement. We had about an hour together before that happened.