They'd be worse off than they are right now. Right now all of Tyco's assets are available for recovery or execution by any judgment the class were to obtain.

He's one of those unusual people who believes in what he's doing.

He's a very intelligent guy, very dedicated, very principled.

We are asking the court to essentially freeze-frame the merger until all seat holders have an opportunity to understand how it was conceived, structured, valued and brokered.