I had several discussions with Ms. Hogan, and she said she had no contact with any delegates before or after the convention. I have surveyed about half of the delegates, and so far they have said they felt no pressure to vote a certain way.

Obviously there's tapes of that, and I'm sure they're very entertaining. History is wonderful and it's there, if people have the time and want to engage in that. I certainly think the analytical view I bring to express on whatever topic is the kind of view that hopefully will produce some good analysis for the good of the council.