I think we are probably at a point now where this plan is not going to get substantially better or worse. I wish there was another development somewhere that I could point to, make some phone calls and talk to the residents. There isn't. There are no projects to point to in order to say this will work or not, but it is meeting Clive's standards.

That's been Clive's standard since before I got here - trying to be above the bar. We have for the most part during my time tried to incrementally increase the bar as we went along on different projects when we found new materials or better ways of designing. Just about every year that I've been here, we've made edits to the zoning ordinance.