I think it's lost a little luster, because both programs have come so far. It used to be like the biggest game of the year when I was playing. But Xavier has come so far and UC has, it's no longer the biggest game of the year. It's a very important game, but not the biggest. It's really a testament to both programs.

Xavier's been kind of lucky as far as injuries (over the years). I guess it's the law of averages catching up to them.

Huggins and Gillen, that (handshake) incident heightened it for a short period of time. It gave the writers something to talk about. But the intensity of the game is no less without Bob Huggins or Pete Gillen or whomever. Whoever the coach is going to be, the intensity level is always going to be sky high. The whole city is still going to shut down and watch that game.