It shows what doing the right thing will do for you. There's something to be said for that.

We fought forest fires together, like for two weeks on the fire lines, 12 hours a day, so we know a little bit about each other, you know.

I never in my wildest dreams thought that I'd get this opportunity.

When it did, it really hurt, and that's when I started getting trouble. It was like $280,000 we lost. I sort of got stupid.

It was always just people's junk I put together because they wanted to sell it.