We've argued about it. ... We've gone around in circles.

I am going to attempt to see him again.

I think both sides won, and both sides lost.

Our win was the constitutional right of the defendant to have access to the witnesses even though they are across the sea. The government's win is that don't have to produce them, and they don't have to dismiss the case.

I am glad to be talking to him.

He's running the show.